Really Square Enix? FF13-3 already?!

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playstationlifestyle.net/2011/09/10/square-enix-might-be-losing-it-final-fantasy-xiii-3-website-registered/

I can't believe this is happening. I used to think Call Of Duty was overmilked but now this is just sad, Square Enix has registered Final fantasy 13-3 as a domain. This might not seem bad but when you put into account that they haven't even released FF13-2 yet?

Yeah. Really sad. I'm sorry for any final fantasy fans out there but are you honestly not put off by the arrogance of the company making your favourite game when they just assume they'll sell well with their current game so much that their willing to make a website for the next one before you as much as even bought said current game?

Because even with a game like Uncharted, I couldn't see myself taking that well. I don't like how Square Enix treats Final Fantasy, it's like they don't have any time for anything besides final fantasy. It annoys me because I'd like to see more titles from them like Deus Ex: Human Revolution, that was amazing, a triumph and a clear contender for GOTY 2011,

so why are SE just making final fantasy games when it's clearly not the only franchise they can design well for.

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Wow, we haven't even heard much about the second one.
Very interesting, but you don't know, it may be a filler name for the 15th installment, this could verywell change.

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Well not really considering it's called Final Fantasy 13-3, if they wanted a domain for FF15 then they'd have to create a domain for FF15 and would it really be better then a FF13-3, I mean a 15th installment would be just as stupid.

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Thinking through a bit more...

This doesn't seem like summink Squeenix would do. I... I'm believing it more to be a hoax.

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Actually you can't take sites like that, somebody tried to do that to Activision and they got in a heck of a lot of trouble over it.

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Happened to coke cola.

Also, I've been looking at the GameFAQs boards.

They're saving the domain name just in case. It's just to edge on the side of caution. It could also be versus XIII.

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considering what Coke Cola are like I doubt the person would want to do it again...

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They're also planning on doing a remake of ff10. That's nice and all, but I think it doesn't really need the remaking treatment as of yet. Maybe instead they could do... oh I don't know... a remake of 7? The supposedly best game of them all? The fans' favourite? No? You're going to do a remake of a game that already is beautifully done complete with voice actors and everything?
I just don't understand square enix sometimes...

AND FOR PETE'S SAKE GIVE 9 SOME LOVE. IT DESERVES IT.

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FF7 is not the fan favourite or "the best game of them all"

It is simply overrated, crappy, emo, nostalgia-goggled s***!

There, I said it. I hate Cloud, I hate Sephiroth the overrated c*** (and I don't normally use that word either)

And I hate FF7 as a whole.

FF9 I'm not gonna talk about since I haven't seen enough of it to make a general comment but that looked like boring tripe as well.

FF10 is the one of the only final fantasy's (13 made me too) that has made me cry, no matter how much I watch the ending. I believe it to be the BEST Final Fantasy, because it's story meant something. The characters were brilliant. You actually felt for Yuna, you actually missed Tidus, you actually loathed Seymour and became immersed in this culture of fear.

FF7 is merely a Final Fantasy loved because of Cloud Strife, the emo whining b**** with some uber cool buster sword.

It's crap. It's bad. It's not worthy of a remake. It needs to die and be buried in the core so it can melt inexorably.

If it got a remake, we'd have all the fanboys rising from the graves and bawwwing its way back to whatever.

F*** Final Fantasy 7. Load of s***.


And before I get called a Final Fantasy 13/10/12/10-2 fangirl.

I'm not a fangirl, I just know good games when I see them. The games just listed above (besides 10-2 because that was a sidequest heaven game) was awesome because of:

Characters
Narrative execution
Whole Plot

They all have that.

Even X-2.


FF7 DOESN'T HAVE GOOD CHARACTERS. epic fail dere!
The FF7 plot is crap. EPIC FAIL DERE!
The Final Fantasy 7 narrative execution... I'm not even gonna bother. The Aerith murder by Sephiroth is sooo cheesy and executed so badly. It's almost anti-climatical and didn't make me feel anything. I feel nothing. And I have emotions due to crying at the endings of 10 and 13.


So now I end my long rant.


Long story short: Final Fantasy 7 needs to die and be buried because of its shitty game quality, characters and everything else. The game is a mound of turd, basically.

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Actually I've heard it is a fan favourite and generally regarded not only one of the best Final fantasy games but one of the best RPG games of all time. It seems like your getting opinion confused with fact. I mean it's not a fact that it's the best but it's a overall opinion of RPG, gaming and Final fantasy as a whole that it's the best.

I've seen the whole murder scene and for what games designers could do at the time it's pretty dang sad. Also a few facts

- Not liking a game dosen't mean everybody hates it
- I know some Final Fantasy fans who'd fight to the grave before denying FF7 it's brilliance (My games tutor is a pretty big FF7 fanboy)
- I'm almost certain you can't be a fanboy/girl over a certain game in a franchise
- Did FF7 murder you childhood friend? I can't place one someone would have so much hatred over one game (Not a fact but needs to be asked)
- If it wasn't for FF7 there wouldn't be an FF8 and therefore the franchise would have died off years ago
- From a designer POV I don't see anything wrong with the characters, plot or narrative
- You seem to only like the newer more graphical Final fantasy games. Something tells me you find it hard to get past the now bad graphics of FF7

I guess what I'm saying is why did you feel the need to write an entire post dedicated to telling us all why a game someone thinks is good is bad? I mean wasn't it you yourself who told me about how it's wrong to attack a game and it dosen't matter if people like it. In fact your doing it on the very game franchise I was insulting. I really don't mean to be rude but your need to chill out.

It's a game and if they made an FF7 remake nobody would make you play it.

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FF7 as a game is actually not considered the fan favourite. The fan favourite is considered if I remember correctly to either be number iv or number VI.


In fact after a quick check the popular order (that i've seen in several other places is this)

1. FFVI
2. FFIV
3. FFVII
4. FFX
5. FFIX
6. FFV
7. FFXII

Sephiroth as a villian is pretty epic. If you play some of the prequel games then you can really see how big a change him becoming evil was.

The plot was pretty good actually. It had a lot of twists and turns you didn't expect.

If you upgraded the graphics the Aeris/Aerith death scene would be epic. I mean Cloud is being controlled and is struggling against it because he doesn't want to kill her (though you can't kill her even if you try and believe me I have.) Then suddenly when Cloud gains control and they think its going to be ok Sephiroth rams a blade through her back killing her.

Cloud despite what they say is not emo. He is virtually emotionless at the beginning and is basically: I'm just doing this for the money. Then as the game progresses his character really develops. Especially the bit where you have to go into his memories and find out the true story about Nibelheim. That was epic.

Then the scene where the support pillar is blown up and crushes Sector 7 killing two of the guys? Epic.

For back then it was a truly great game. The scripting I'll admit COULD be better. Though I wouldn't change a thing about Barrett and Dyne...that was a great bit. There was a lot of character development in it. It also had some fun sidequests like the chocobo racing and breeding and the battle arena.

I can't really speak for VIII as I haven't played it enough, but from what i've seen its a good game. My only problem is that to get some of the good items you have to search pretty much everything.

IX is a game I can talk about. The plot is good, the characters are good, though I think Steiner could be improved. The graphics are a big improvement on VII (though not as good as VIII). The scripting is also pretty good. The sidequests are also interesting. Plus like VII it has an area that is easy to get to where with the right equipment you can train your characters loads.


My problem with XIII and it always will be my problem is the battle system. I like the paradigm shift, I like the stagger effect, I also quite like the move stacking.

Why auto-battle? That just takes the fun out of selecting stuff. Also, why do you lose if the main one dies? That is just stupid. I mean you've got two other guys, probably with revive stuff, who could revive you or win the fight, but nope...you lose.

Also the summons are pathetically weak. Summons are meant to be mega powerful things and in every other game they are. In this one the characters always seem to be stronger then the summons.

Also, although it was cool in some cases, why the gestalt mode? For Snow I understood it and I kind of get it for thats how you get them on your side (though tbh the battles against the summons were fricking annoying because you had to do certain things to win), but in the case of most of them it just seems to be gimmick.

Also why is bahamut some weird vampire looking thing and then a dragon? Should just be a fricking dragon the whole time or something like a humanoid dragon. Also where is the consistency? I mean Odin into a horse, byrnhildr(why not just have ifrit?) into a car, Shiva into a bike and I suppose Bahamut into a dragon. All transportation. Then suddenly you've got Alexander into a wall and erm.....Hecatoncheir into a turret. Why not have some vehicular mode for them? Alexander into a tank? Hecatoncheir(why not Titan?) into erm....a tunneling machine? That would at least show consistency.

I enjoyed the storyline, I enjoyed the characters though I would of built on hope's cowardice a bit more and I personally think the characterisation could be improved a lot for them all.


Graphics wise the PS2 and up games will always have the edge and so their cut scenes are a lot easier to feel strongly about due to the realism, but the bit where Cloud drops Aeris into the water.....that always makes me cry. No other game has managed to do that.


I do agree with Tymiki. 10 doesn't need a remake.

1 to 5/6 have all had remakes. Just go through them one at a time. I think if FFVII had decent graphics and voice actors it could absolutely own the market.

Hence why Advent Children sold so well....because it showed some of the stuff people knew and loved from the game in true magnificence and did some great voice acting.

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I don't get the whole roman numerals, it always seems a bit douchebagery. Just say the numbers, why is it when it comes to final fantasy all of a sudden we use the Roman numeral system of numbers?

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Final Fantasy has always done Roman Numerals because they make it look more grand and epic. Just putting the number detracts from that epicness.

By the way, I'm not displaying my opinion as fact. I'm displaying it as opinion. What I wrote was my opinion on that abominable game that needs to be buried alive and left to die in a hole.

If you're wondering why I hate it so much, I have always hated overratedness.

That's why I hate The Legend of Zelda. Because I think some of them games aren't as good as they actually are and are actually overrated.
That's why I hate FFVII and FFVIII. They're overrated.

That's why I like the more modern games. They underrated. Especially 12. That poor game. It's a gem that wants to be polished.
13 is underrated.

I've always loved the underdog games (and series)

That's also why I hate Mario and love Sonic.
Because Mario has so many elements in him that are crap, but everyone praises them. But when Sonic puts in the same elements in the same way - oh wait that's crap.
Bloody double standards for that fat lousy plumber.
So, that's why I'm a diehard Sonic fan. He's underrated, and an underdog in himself.


But no. I'm not saying my opinion is fact. That's merelymy opinion up there. People can think whatever they want about that game. I wouldn't touch it with a 1 mile barge pole.
However, I do covet 13, and I am proceeding to totally max out the Crystarium for each character (that might also be why I like 13, how much crystal is introduced. ^^ lovely crystal, how I love you)



Anyway, I'm going to quickly say this:

I've seen the newest trailer for FF13-2, Hope is so grown up and he looks weird! (Ames, he is 19, love)
He looks awesome witht his awesome boomerang!
Snoooowww! Snow has a mullet! Totalz awesome!

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I don't get how either way of buying games makes sense. It's seems dumb to like a game purely because it's popular and it's the in-game at the moment but it also seems weird to me that people will buy a game because it's the underdog, nobody's gonna thank you for buying a game so you might as well just buy whatever looks the best.

Mario is over-rated. He's franchise is so overmilked if it was a cow it'd have died and most of us would have some kind of dead cow disease. The new final fantasy seem (to me) to focus mainly on graphics which I hate, Call Of Duty focuses mainly on being just the most bland piece of crap on the market, Sonic and tomb raider have both become crap and are now going back to what they used to be like doing something right, doing it terriable and then doing it right again should be cause for celebration.

No it's not. But it feels great to finally see a game worthy of the blue blur out on the market. Here's hoping Eurogamer's 2011 expo dosen't make me want to change my mind on this. Why do I say all this? Because yeah we all can have negative opinions but it comes across a little harsh when somebody simply says "I like this game" and you make a giant post talking about how you hate it and it's the worst game of it's franchise.

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I played FFVII and FFIX before I even knew they were popular and i loved both. On my first play off FFIX I played it for that long I was on the third disc.

My main problem with the more modern games is that they seem to attempt a change and then despite fans hating the change(in most cases) keep doing it for a couple of games before they realise the mistake.

ALso, they do seem to focus way too much on graphics. I mean....for most of FF13 its linear which doesn't suit a JRPG at all. I do quite like the more free roaming battle system they've introduced and I like the fact summons are no longer just one big hit and they are gone.

In a lot of people's opinion CS the best final fantasy is actually FFX. I've spoken to these people and despite its more linear style(its very linear compared to the PS1 games) it is a very good game.

I personally still prefer the old levelling system.

If I had a choice i'd have it so when I levelled up I got some more health and then attribute points which I could allocate to anything (attack power, defense etc). The crystarium annoyed me as you had to get abilities and things the player might not want in order to get stuff they do.

FFVII magic system was great. You had a limited amount of spaces (depending on weapons and armor) to put materia on and that gave access to abilities. The longer you had those equipped the better they became e.g. fire materia eventually allowed to use fira and firaga.

However, I think the best magic system would be for the character to be able to 'learn' spells from items or something and then the more you use the spell the better you get at it. Same with other abilities like a spin slash for example, the more you use it the better you become. It is more realistic then the ff7 way: I had it equipped so now its better or the FF13 way: Oh I've got lots of points so now I can unlock it by going through lots of stuff that isn't relevant.

I am glad they brought the job system back. Though I wish they'd given more options and there had been changes to clothing and stuff like in the old ones. So much cooler.



QUestion about FF13-2....if they were frozen in crystal how do they age? I mean Vanille and Fang didn't and they were in it for YEARs so unless they are doing not only a de-crystal bit, but a timeskip AS well. It doesn't make sense to me